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… but will it do both at the same time?
commenter rjcc over on ps3blog.net makes a very, very good comment. there’s a reason the xbox 360 is a media extender and not a pvr. you can play games on your 360 while your media center is recording shows. they just playback through your network from your pc to the 360.
in the ps3’s case, what’s the point of having a dvr if it can’t record shows while you’re playing games?
and, if the ps3 does both at the same time? uh… that sucks. let’s do some math!
data rate of a compressed hd video stream: about 19 megabits per second.
that’s 2.375 megabytes of data written to the hard drive per second.
that’s 142.5 megabytes a minute.
that’s 8.35 gigabytes an hour.
so, a 120 gig ps3 hard drive can hold about 14 hours of compressed video.
ew… that’s not very much nor very effective for a shared device.
and, not only is the write pipe to the ps3 hard drive gonna suck when your game has to share bandwidth with your video being recorded, but, what the hell is compressing the video? that’s right! resources in the ps3 — the very same resources that play your game. (that assumes, of course, you’ve got a pure, uncompressed hd feed. more likely, you’ll already have a compressed cable or satellite feed coming in. that way, there’s just transcoding issues…)
so, compressing/storing video and playing a game at the same time? not so much. looks like you’ll just have to buy another ps3.
and, we won’t even mention that they can choose to not compress/transcode hd video. that’s somewhere around 417 gigabytes an hour…. heh.
UPDATE: evidently, the internet is melting. so, i just thought i’d archive d’toid’s post here.
I have been waiting for many months to finally say this, and today is the day. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will not be a PS3 exclusive after all. It has been confirmed that it will make its way to the Xbox 360 in 2008.
There is no true date set for the release at this point, but November of 2008 has been mentioned. This is not set in stone as Konami is working with Microsoft to bring the date forward as much as possible. MGS4 for the 360 will also come with exclusive content and gameplay that will not be in the PS3 version of the game. Some of this content is VR missions, as well as “Snake Tales” or “Snake in the Valley” (depending on where you live), which will let you go on objective based missions, some of which are very lengthy. These are the first two bonuses to emerge so far, but be ready to expect even more.
Konami is also in talks with Nintendo to bring a Metal Gear Solid game to the Wii. MGS4 would obviously have to be slimmed down if the chose to port the title to Nintendo’s console. We already know that Snake will be a playable character in Super Smash Bros., so this (along with the 360 news) doesn’t come as much of a surprise.
On a personal note. HAHAHAHA! Hey Sony fanboys: At least you all have a Blu-ray player for the next year or two until that fails as well.
[Editor’s note: The opinions expressed about Sony and the PS3 belong to Ron Workman and Ron Workman only. He’s a loose cannon and a PR nightmare.]
Dear internet matlocks,
You cracked the case, good work. I understand that going to every gaming industry event, [—-edited—-], speaking to someone at Konami, and knowing this has been in the works for months, could not possibly make me as qualified as the forum post you made from your
A. Dorm room
B. Mom’s basement
C. Cell block
We all know that Sony would never give up an exclusive. I mean what’s next? Unreal Tourney? Final Fantasy? Nooo waaay! They would never loose an exclusive. Every MGS game was a Sony exclusive at one point. I can’t imagine them coming out with MGS on another console. I mean… they have never done that have they?
Next time I am with Peter Moore, Myamoto, or Phil Harrison in person, I will be sure to remind them to approve things through you, internet Matlocks, before they make any decisions.
just ran across this excellent piece over at the inquirer.
The three points of the triangle are cost, installed base and games. If you don’t have two of them, the third will never happen, and if you do have two, the third will come for free.
i’ve talked about it before, but it’s nice to see it articulated so well in the media.
thought this was a funny bit from one of those moments of weakness where i bust out and make fun of some little sony zealot.
basically, his brief point in this small portion of a larger conversation was that an xbox 360 with 4 years of subscription to live equaled the price of a ps3.
“That’s..ummm…200 dollars for 4 years? There goes your cost advantage”
damn! your right!
tho, since you can get all those downloads on xbox live for free, you don’t need to pay the $200 for the live subscription. tho, to help make your point, i’ll show you other ways the “360 cost advantage disappears.”
you’re right, a 360 and 4 years of live — cost advantage gone!
a 360 and 4 award-winning, exclusive games — cost advantage gone!
a 360 and 100 starbucks lattes — cost advantage gone!
a 360, a hooker and a bag of blow — cost advantage gone!
do you see the difference, with the $600 the ps3 costs you, a 360 owner can have their console PLUS other stuff. best of all? they get to CHOOSE what to spend that extra $200 on! they’re not just sitting there in the dark, wiping down their dust-magnet while NOT playing games.
hmmm… weird. he never responded.
one of these days, i should go count up the number of “thread-enders” i’ve written.
this’s dumb. it reminds me of a stupid ps3 top 10 list that hit right before the 360 launched last year. you know — the list that catapulted me to blog. i wouldn’t mind someone putting together a top 5 list of reasons to like a ps3, but, dammit, at least use good reasons.
as in, none of your reasons should be formatted as follows:
[insert reason] is a great reason to get a ps3 if you [reason qualification].
for example, if you love sony. or if you have a high definition setup. or if you want high definition dvds.
no. it should stop right after “ps3.” as in:
[insert reason] is a great reason to get a ps3.
like, for example, “xbox live is a great reason to get an xbox.” or “the wiimote is a great reason to get a wii.”
…anyway. on to ric
3 of his reasons are based on a set of unlikely prerequisites:
1) you actually care about high definition dvd because it requires…
2) actually having a big hdtv to go with it.
and 3) how many people actually have a psp?
the other two are just dumb. there’s 4) you have a bunch of ps2 games, but no ps2 to play them on. or even better, 5) “New games for a new box.”
what the hell?
dammit! i forgot! the ps3 is the only console that’s going to have new games! doh! basically he’s saying, “if you’re a sony fan and you have a hi-def setup, you’ll want the ps3.”
for the rest of us, with the same $600, if you don’t have/care about any of that, you can get a console with similar graphics AND a fistful of good AAA games AND some live arcade games. or a console that’s more fun (sony’s words, not mine) and an extra $350 worth of games….
yeah. you read that right.
for the price of the ps3, you can get a wii AND $350 in games. seriously, are there any better reasons not to get a ps3 than that?
i don’t really know why microsoft wouldn’t be upbeat. with their competition not showing up, it’s gonna be an xbox holiday.
North America remains the strongest Xbox 360 market, however Microsoft appears to be making some strides in other geographies, most notably in the U.K. and northern Europe, while we believe sales are still weaker in Japan
… so to speak.
so, i’m just sitting here, working, and a strange analogy just struck me. it’s the similarity in music media and game consoles.
for the geeks out there:
ps3 : minidisc :: xbox 360 : cd :: wii : itunes :: pc : cd-r
a bit of explanation.
ps3 : minidisc
- both are hardware sexy.
- both are content pliable.
- both are “proprietary, yet make it your own.”
- both have a strong hardware proposition but a weak paid content proposition. (meaning, the hardware is very valuable without the “official” games/music — aka a pirate’s wet dream)
xbox 360 : cd
- both are unmaleable. (compared to the original xbox or the ps3, for example)
- both work well with your current supporting technology. (i.e. pc, mce, ALL tvs and audio outs, ALL plug and play devices — all kinds of tertiary tech — it still doesn’t play those damn cassette tapes tho!)
- both have relatively uneditable content from a delivery perspective. (once you get it out of context tho, it’s a different story)
wii : itunes
- both are radically unlike the others.
- many people will play both, but not very deep.
- both have strong “everyman” support but not a lot of supergeek support.
- well… apple and nintendo. peas in a pod.
pc : cd-r
- both play, hold, run whatever you want them too.
- both are applicable outside of the industry.
- it’s the wild, wild west where anything goes.
the excellently brilliant guys over at susquehanna financial group — jason kraft and chris kwak — have just published a paper on how high attach rates show weakness in hardware sales.
makes total sense. they nail it:
It doesn’t take effort to see that a console with an attach rate of 8 and an installed base of 50 million is superior to a console with an attach rate of 12 with an installed base of 20 mln.
what does that mean for the xbox 360 with its 5.2 game attach rate?
well. to me, it means the games are good. it’s not just a market flop *cough* psp *cough* with a crap hardware run rate AND a crappy attach rate.
so, why are hardware sales so… well… meh? they’re not bad. everyone agrees on that, tho, they certainly aren’t stellar.
it’s the “wait and see” tactic. now that they are “software entrenched” microsoft was right to want to hurry along the launch of the ps3 and the wii. from microsoft’s point of view, it’ll be nice to see the marketplace recognize hype when they finally see it. and, it’s always good to compare apples to apples — not apples to photos of apples you may get some day.
that being said, it’s the end of the wait and see period. everything is on the table now. so, expect the 360’s tie ratio to drop and the ps3’s to rise. (the wii will always have a terrible tie ratio. that’s just the kind of console it is. tho, for nintendo, it doesn’t matter — they make money on the hardware.)
and, in their conclusion, they posit this:
The only metric worth focusing on is the console installed base, as this metric drives all others.
which, is absolutely true.
that’s why i get soooooooo goddamn irritated when i see uneducated comments in forums where people say they are going to get a ps3 because it’s about the “games.”
folks. i hate to break this to you, but, there are a few truths coming out about this generation of consoles vs. the last:
- sony is pissing on software partners.
- microsoft is wooing and loving on software partners.
- last generation, sony had “all the games” because they had the install-base. this generation, the 360 has the install-base.
sony’s saving grace is old, established franchises like final fantasy, mgs and gran turismo. however, those are NOT games that the mainstream plays.
these are the top games of the last 12 months: madden, cars (yes, from the movie), need for speed, tony hawk, wwe, pro evo, fifa, lego star wars, gta….
seeing the trend? yep. all cross-platform.
the large majority of people can play the same game on hardware that costs 60% of the playstation 3. not only that, but the third fastest-selling game on the planet right now (behind the soccer … er… football games) is gears of war — an exclusive.
so, yeah. in the past, sony had the games. that’s because they had the install-base. this time around, they guaranteed themselves a tiny install-base by pricing their console at $600.
thank god sony’s got blu-ray, tho. john madden will totally thank them.
dammit. amazon is just too slow. i couldn’t wait anymore.
i won the contest, btw. huge thanks to everyone who voted!
UPDATE: i should also mention that my wife was actually the one to go out and get this for me. she was tired of hearing me complain about having to wait.
well. that, or she just wanted to play co-op with me.
she’s so damn cool.